Sunday, June 8, 2008

20000 M HCl

So the other day I asked Yahoo Answers How can I make 20000 M HCl, and what it could destroy?

By the end of the day I already had four answers.

The first three essentially said no.

The third elaborated that the concentration of pure water is still just 55.6 moles.

But it's the fourth guy that really takes the cake. Here is what he said.

20000 Moles of Hydrochloric Acid????

Err probably need a HUGE factory, never seen before.

To make 20000 Moles of HCl (1,168.8554 kg/791.371293 m^3 ) you get from the electrolisis of 20000 moles of salt solution in a vaccum container. You'd probably need to do this several times, over a tonne of gas in an (inert) vaccum container.

You would then have to remove the sodium hydroxide impurities by some sort of fractional distillation method where the HCl gas is transfered to a different container. You would then need to condense the pure HCl gas to a liquid by holding the entire system at -85.1°C (industrially the acid is concentrated by disolving it in water. that'd just weaken it)

If M means Moles per litre you may need to apply intense pressure on the substance to increase its density by nearly 80000% at this sort of packing potential you would need probably astronomic thermonuclear or even black hole pressures to compress it certainly intense energy (even if the concentration was for minute volumes) ...the enthalpy change would certainly make it solid and as dense as uranium (18,900 kg/m3 higher than the 1,168.8554 kg/m3 of the HCl) but the chemical lattice because of the smaller nuclei would have to be highly compressed to... which is extremely insane to grasp.

The huge problem is that the equiptment will probably erode with the strong acids...and the use of vaccum technology to get pure HCl widens the possibility of explosions.

As I say this is the stuff of divinity here (manipulating black holes) but ... even a single liquid tube of pure HCl brought quickly to room temperature would boil and be highly explosive spraying acidic gas everywhere.


I especially like the last paragraph.

Well, stay tuned for more wacky Yahoo Answers hijinx.

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